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Photographic glass plates Indian hunting trip

Just some nice old photographic plates described a few blog posts ago “old photographic glass plates” I now have the permission to show you what was in those boxes!

old glass plate showing hunting party arrived by charabanc, just take out your rifle and shoot!

Shipping in the hunters by the truck load!

The hunting trip: If you had the money, you booked your transport and gathered a few mates and, off hunting you will go. These were times of men, showing they were real men and what they could do and what “trophies” they could shoot.

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Old photographic glass plate showing the hunting platform in the trees

Building the hunting platform in the trees

It was probably safer to shoot wild animals from up high in a tree, hence the need to build yourself a suitable hunting platform around a sturdy trunk.

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Old photograph showing hunter posing with his trophy!

Bagged a trophy

Once you bagged your Tiger you could pose for your photo and then have the jungle Sherpa’s carry it home for you.

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Old photographic plate showing Asian bears carried back to camp

Carrying home the trophies

Jungle Sherpa’s carrying home the trophies. Of course hunting was not limited to tigers, anything that moved, there was plentiful supply back then. Including the Asian bear.

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Old photographic plates showing Indian hunting tropies, Boar and Leopard

Boar or Leopard

Above is a Boar and the magnificent Leopard

Old photographic glass plate showing a Leopard

Preparing the Leopard skin

After the animals were shot and carried home they were the prepared for display or sale.

The above images were kindly donated for display by one of my clients. I do not condone hunting of any kind these are simply a record of what used to happen and a photos of historic interest.

To see where these plates came from and what they were boxed in, see my post on “old photographic glass plates

Rare Daguerreotype discovered of young Abraham Lincoln

Could this be a new discovery of an original Daguerreotype of the young Abraham Lincoln?

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A newly discovered Daguerreotype was found by Justin Whiting of, Norwich Norfolk United Kingdom, could be a new photographic piece in Abraham Lincoln’s historic life story.

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Purchased on Ebay from a power seller of Daguerreotypes Justin was sure it reminded him of someone. He’d been searching for an image like this for sometime. In his mind it could be no one else other than a young Abraham Lincoln!

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Was it? Could it be? At a casual glance there is a good resemblance.

Newly dicovered Daguerreotype of young Abraham Lincoln. Shown to scale.

Daguerreotype of young Abraham Lincoln. Shown to scale.

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He set about the process verifying the image by asking American museums if they were willing to help identify the man in the image.

Abraham Lincoln new discovery of a Daguerreotype

Abraham Lincoln in his late 30’s (left). Could this be a new discovery of an original Daguerreotype of the young Abraham Lincoln?

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Images get flipped and faces point in different directions and then get flipped. Why? Because sometimes you see the mirror image of Abe as he was captured on the Daguerreotypes and sometimes these images have been flipped to show the image as it would be if you were looking straight at him. In this case its possible that the mole is on the right side of the left face.

The Find: Justin has always had a great interest in finding photographs of famous historic figures from America.  He was taking his daily browse through “carte de visite” or visiting cards on eBay but got distracted by some daguerreotypes. He saw an interesting picture titled “1/6 daguerreotype tinted blue 1840’s”. Justin purchased the item from the e-seller ‘salvatorparadise’,  on 29/06/2011 for about $140.

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The Daguerreotype  showed an extremely tall man in a fine suit. He did a some research and found matching physical details to Abraham Lincoln, like the height and body build, the way his eyes sat differently.  In the reference photographs Justin noticed Abraham Lincoln has some defining features like the large bump on his right cheek, his left eye socket was higher than the right. These all matched, even his nose and lips. Abraham Lincoln had a thin top lip and a fat bottom lip, the same seemed to be the case in the Daguerreotype.

Caparisons

From left Sketch, Newly discovered Abraham Lincoln Daguerreotype, Oil Painting, facial cast

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He went on to discover other matching features such as Lincolns very different ears, the left side was slightly higher then the right. He also had other features such as his jaw buckled in, on the low right side and his right eye drifted towards his nose, the condition was called ‘strabismus’. It was these matching features that made him believe he was looking at a Young Abraham Lincoln. The final clue was the suit he was wearing, which was completely in  keeping with Lincolns occupation as a Lawyer..

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The stormy faced scholar. At the same time there was an auction going for another daguerreotype by the same seller which he missed but managed to contact the buyer. This second image appears to be a younger Reverend Owen Lovejoy 1840. “’stormy faced scholar”. He contacted the buyer who was a bit reluctant to sell it as it had been cleaned at a considerable cost. After haggling on the phone Justin managed to obtain the photograph as well. He already knew Owen Lovejoy was a dear friend to Lincoln and that he used to read the bible to Lincoln regularly at his home. The photograph was not in the best of shape even after it was cleaned as the seals are missing. This meant it had oxidised and darkened slowly over time. The facial features are still visible as is the hairline which seems to be a very accurate match to Reverend Owen Lovejoy. The open book in the photo which symbolises the bible as it an open book. Justin believes he is making a statement that this is his passion, he is a reverend and a preacher of the bible.

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Reverend Owen Lovejoy

Reverend Owen Lovejoy

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American’s uninterested. After buying both daguerreotypes Justin contacted some museums in America to present his findings. He was excepting some very positive responses. Instead he was shunned by one museum saying it was not Lincoln and looked nothing like him. They offered no further explanation other than “his hair looks ridiculous”.  He soon realised It was not going to be easy, the American museums was very dismissive. with attitude of,  here we go another picture claiming to be Lincoln, “we get loads” they said.

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Undeterred Justin decided to hunt for someone who can offer a more scientific investigation to match the facial features. The scientific road now appears to be the only answer. He has started proceedings with the facial recognition process. He asked me to help put this blog together to the message out there if anyone can help.

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A personal opinionWhy i featured this on my blog?
I feel this is him based on what i can see and line up in my software. The most interesting for me is the ear print match. Ears are unique or so The National Training Centre for Scientific Support to Crime Investigation NTCSSCI says “no two ears are exactly the same”. The ear print for me is the clincher.

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Sources Ear prints  – http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/246713.stm

1902 Toledo Steam Carriage on 871 Mile journey

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Here are two restored photos from a batch, telling the amazing story of a Toledo Steam Carriage on 871 Mile journey!

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1902 Newspaper Article reads

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1902

Feb: “C.E. De Long, of Hot Springs, Ark., and J.E. Saules, of Toledo, Ohio, who started from Toledo in a “Toledo” steam carriage the day before Christmas, are reported to have reached Little Rock, Ark., on the 6th (February) , having been compelled to take the train from Memphis to Hot Springs in consequence of the heavy rains which had flooded the Mississippi bottoms and made the roads impassable. They remained in Little Rock until February 10, when they proceeded on their way by automobile.”

 

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Toledo Steam Carriage making its was 871 Miles back home in winter.

Toledo Steam Carriage making its was 871 Miles back home in winter.

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Lets look at this article in more detail. It was Christmas eve 1902. Weather for that year was cold, you can see ice on the mud puddles in the above image. It must have been below freezing! Now take a look at the distance from Toledo, Ohio to Hot Springs, Arkansas on Google and you get 871 miles. That is by modern roads! Back then the distance would have been much more. These impressive machines probably averaged around 4.1 Miles and hour on the flat without terrain and puddles and mud, hills, weather, break downs, maintenance etc. It took them the best part of 6 weeks to make this journey! Now that is an adventure!

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Toledo Steam Carriage showing it power in climbing a slope 1902 on its way back home 871 miles across America.

Toledo Steam Carriage showing it power in climbing a slope 1902 on its way back home 871 miles across Eastern America.

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The journey was no doubt made even longer by setting up a tripod and composing and taking photos along the way!

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A very kind thank you to Nick Howell for providing the images from his restoration order. You can read more about these machines on toledosattic.org

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